Adding God Doom is just too much. OrdinaryAlan. Forum Posts. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. Follow 3313. Deku remembers All Might then poof PRB is knocked out. PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Team 1 wins. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was established, there was no character of TOAA before or at the time of Secret Wars 1 & 2. Both equally were sharing same body as explained in mutant x #32. My gut is Monarch?Stomp. "@Pr_Beyonder: michael created the but lucifer gave it form, basically its like michael has the universe creating energy but lucifer can manipulate that energy into things,. Weakest character that would beat him for a majority is PR Beyonder. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. Follow 8649. What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that he. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. Forum Posts. Victory by permanent death or erasure. lazerbeak. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. The guy could probably trick PR Beyonder into. However, that is NOT always the most accurate way to decipher a victory. He's in seriouLiving Tribunal has been repeatedly demolished by reality warpers who have total control over the multiverse. The beat LT list is: TOAA, anyone with the Heart of the Universe, PR Beyonder, PR Moleculeman, MoM The match or near match LT list is: and experienced Infinity Gauntlet User The upscale but still. 5. Wiki Points. Followers. Crom-Cruach. FinalStar86. 4 years ago. level 2 · 1y. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. Pr beyonder. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. And PR Beyonder isn't omnipotent either and TR is in a completely separate cosmology created by Grant Morrison with an over monitor and his monitors as angels by Grant. PR Beyonder was specifically the sum total of a multiverse that dwarfs the Marvel multiverse. Even 16D beings like LT, Eternity are nowhere as powerful as PR Beyonder, so Beyonder still wins, deal with it. PR Beyonder was 2nd only to TOAA before being retconned and would erase protege from existence. @laflux said: MOM. Darkseid depends, but i think a hakai would destroy an avatar. The Beyonder (pre-retcon) vs The Great Darkness (dark crisis) The most powerful antagonist Marvel ever created vs the latest and greatest existential threat in. @Pr_Beyonder: We Never saw it's limits, But Aang used it to completely seal away phoenix lord Ozai's Fire bending and made it so he "could never hurt anyone ever again. he would get tricked out of his powers without having a sure fire way of getting them back like he did with Dr. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. Oh wait that would mean auto win to Marvel. Just no. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Neither is the fact that PR Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than everything in the entirety of the multiverse. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Kuuko273. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. Jul 30, 2018. So just assume that this the PR version of the Beyond realm. m99. 0. Alot of people seem to have hard time giving HOM Wanda her due. 0. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. So yeah PR Beyonder would stomp Lucifer. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. Forum Posts. Im suprised that PR Beyonder isnt here. To put it simply, PR Beyonder barely thinks of destroying John Constantine, in. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. R1: PRB toys with Class 1-A, turning Bakugo into fireworks, Mineta grapes, Tsuyu a real frog you get the gist. . In the OG secret wars LT gathered a crew of the strongest cosmic entitities to face of PR Beyonder and couldnt do anything. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". Warlockmage. When Thor had the Odin Force, all I had really seen him do. Molecule man, PR beyonder, post retcon beyonders, oblivion, one below all and many many more. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. i wanna hear mr. One Above All Wasnt around when PR Beyonder was, people liken PRB to what TOAA would of been at the time. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. Oh, and Doom has a gun. The one below all (TOBA). Matezoide2. FollowAny who PR Beyonder wins against any Jesus since his only "feats" are raising the dead, reviving after 3 days, turning water into wine and some other bits of lesser magic. 7740. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. @lariend said: Missmatch any from team 2 can solo. . 11 years ago. During Secret Wars 1985 the Beyonder wanted Rachel to destroy the M‘Kraan Crystal, which would erase the multiverse from existence. He's nowhere near the same ballpark as PR Beyonder. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. Take the hill. Followers. 11 years ago. 02-27-2015, 03:13 AM #3. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. No. 7 years ago. Beyonder escaped. Their mere Taikyoku trashes on both Molecule man and PR Beyonder. PM not so much. 14 years ago Lance. The Beyonder: Who Wins In A Fight? By David Harth Published Sep 11, 2020 The Beyonder and Dr. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. Maybe some people will think or debate that PR Beyonder or Oblivion wins against the All-Mighty. The Living Tribunal's domain is the multiverse he's from, the Beyonder is the entire surrounding Beyond personified. Trust me bud, and until you have scans, it ain’t true. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Forums. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. Follow 3935. No. Well, since the Beyonders are just a part of this multiverse whereas PR Beyonder was the entirety of a multiverse bigger than the MU, no. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. This is the original seven and the battle takes place onWhat characters in the Marvel Universe could defeat Michael Demiurgos?Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. 815. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. Dr. "TOAA & The Presence play the same respective roles in DC and Marvel. Who wins? & who are each U's Omniversal beings? If someone does DC, I'll then do marvels to show there superiAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. The unfortunate thing is that Lucifer and Michael best most of the characters listed there,and only really get stalemated by like 2. 13 years ago. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. 10 years ago. Post-Retcon Beyonder vs a Full-Powered Franklin Richards. the only times I see pr beyonder being Blinked by accident is by those above the endless. m99. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. Lucifer's power is stated to be infinit, and he is virtually omnipotent. also the living tribunal couldnt even do anything to PR beyonder. Report Save. lizyatearita. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. Share. Perfect teamwork. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Also, what would you rank him as? A. One Above All (Stan Lee) Fulcrum (Jack Kirby) Living Tribunal. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Forum Posts. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. LT did not get involved in the Beyonder/Owen fight, because he knew he was outmatched, and Owen was the multiverse's only hope. But if you will include that "symbol of heroism/needed for the story" crap, then remove the beyonder. He was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel multiverse. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Lucifer Morningstar vs The Beyonders. 13 years. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. PR Beyonder is just as much close to some of TOAA's powers as HOTU Thanos is. ShootingNova. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space,. The only real threat to him was the PR Molecule man, who challenged him to a universe breaking smack down which was pretty much a draw. @Pr_Beyonder said: " @Sexy Merc said: " @Pr_Beyonder: I'm a huge ass Wally fanboy myself. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. green_skaar. 7. The original purpose of PR Beyonder was an equal of TOAA from his own Actuality. BEYONDERGOD. And PR Beyonder isn't omnipotent either and TR is in a completely separate cosmology created by Grant Morrison with an over monitor and his monitors as angels by Grant. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. vs. I need to know please New Comics. Here, Alden and Neon fall out of Nil after dying and land in the 6th. He is another universe, pre-big bang. Beerus might have trouble with thor, shazam, and POSSIBLY wonder woman due to their godly and magical nature, the rest of the list(up to ten) is easy as pie. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. Marth Kent rolls up a newspaper and hits him makes him do. . Living Tribunal was also onlu second to TOAA much like Michael and Lucifer are second only to Presence. Jul 30, 2018. Molecule Man : r/whowouldwin. Follow 8935. Beyonder saying he's omnipotent or gaining back his powers doesn't confirm his omnipotence. Nihilist. MM is powerful enough to rebuild the marvel multiverse completely from scratch, and he was nowhere near as strong as PR Beyonder when they fought during SW2. Manhattan's league. " I agree for the most part,the way I see this. ) as regarding LT, you really must have. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. There are 5 magics, and one of the 5 magicians killed the original vampire moon god. Ehh closest would be PR Beyonder I guess The closest would be geb i think him and the presence when combined are absolute infinite everything. So I thought I'd try to level the playing field. Even PR Beyonder is just an infinite dimensional reality warper, and the Archetypes whom are significantly weaker than the Outer Gods control infinite dimensional multiverses and beings like chess. PR Beyonder's best feat is embodying a realm beyond the multiverse. Silver Age Superman doesn't have universe+ feats which the Cosmic Cube Beyonder had and PR Beyonder was beyond multiverse+ level. The Beyonder's, on the other hand, aren't and that's what will give him the win. I almost think they should be banned. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. No chance of being omnipotent. PR Beyonder. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Forum Posts. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. Fight takes place in an infinite dimension. Follow 334. #6 Edited By icecream1991. PR Beyonder. 2. 8 years ago. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. A . this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". (The bKorvac wields Power Cosmic. edit2: One big gotcha I should mention. TOAA is above Thanos with the HOTU, a writer is> the written character. All are at maximum power fight is to the death or ko. Edit: Oh yea, pretty sure that Oblivion is the one that. That scales on the top dogs of each omniverse. m limits were never exposed. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine Pages@Pr_Beyonder said: " Remember Beyonder's omniscient so. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. -5. LT's powers/status was never set, hence the whole retcon deal. The Crimson King. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. Representing Marvel:ThanosDr DoomPre-recton BeyondeSorry Merc. A universe that is more powerful than the multiverse. Basically this. He. Victory by permanent death or erasure. In fact, God Doom, who possessed. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. 13 years ago. i mean ya the pr beyonder and dr solar are apparently omnipotent , but you should not forget the phoenix . Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. However Lucifer ig is the same. the beyonder is literally the embodiment of a universe which dwarfs the mainstream multiverse, so he can do the same thing for the multiverse, but not all of marvel (since marvel is an omniverse. Follow 25782. The deciding factor imo is that Lucifer is a bloody genius. Pre-retcon Molecule Man hasn't paid his taxes in like, 10 years, since he's been been galavanting around the universe. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Bo88gdan. Follow 75. unicron wins and heres why. 13 years agoAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. PR Beyonder would blink Superman 1 million (whether gold or Kal kent) into non-existence. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. But if you are ONLY going FEATS wise, then Classic Beyonder takes it. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. Start off twenty feet away. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. Follow 10594. Beyonder is the bigger god. Lord Urizen. This is Beyonders not the famous PR Beyonder. If Iron Man can. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Reviews. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. They might ruffle his soul-glo hair though, which wouldn't end well for them. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. Wiki Points. Flagged (sorry!) 11 years ago. Hard to call in terms of power. So Beyonder casually stomping and being above people who casually stomp multiversal beings, is a massive step up. Not remotely. No chance of being omnipotent. for PR, i'm more in line with thinking it's going to be a fight you can't imagine. 11,059. In the OVA Z made it clear him and masaki were experiments. g2_ Follow 14321. Morals off. Win by death, KO, incap PR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. Round 2: Thanos has 1 year. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. is TOAA, or at least part of him. If allowed, Thanos with HOTU or astral regulator is top tier. 0. M. dope matchup. Wiki Points. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. They above everyone on the list Gold Experiance Requiem cant touch nigh beings or omni beings so its useless. @kingant27 said:. What was he, and why was he so powerful? All i know about. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. [deleted]Join Date. Yeah, but PR Beyonder had LT shaking in his wee booties. (unless he wills himself otherwise alla Rachel Summers. Win by death, KO, incapPR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. Example: I have taken the hill and have the death star watIt can and has been argued that PR Beyonder exceeds TOAA in power, whereas the HotU apparently. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). (unless he wills himself otherwise alla Rachel Summers. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. Hulk tanking a hit from Beyonder is an outlier too by the way. Nobody in Marvel or DC aside from the Primal Monitor (DC) or TOAA (Marvel) have the slightest chance against PR Beyonder. The closest I can think of are Lucifer Morningstar and/or Michael. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Beyonder is the bigger god. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to him. ago. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. London, UK. Follow 6024. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. Adm1ralSnackbar. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. 0. Forums. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. 0. New Comics. Gen. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. And pr beyonder was never the writer, stop the cap. PR Beyonder still wins unless of course that's MF Mxy which I doubt it is (and even if it was some idiot would argue that actually being able to change the beyonder into a turd doesn't count for. He couldn't erase Death. Mxyzptlk. Wiki Points. Mike+Luxy would be at least equal to PR Beyonder/Molecule Man/Mandrakk/Living Tribunal. His will is law. I don't know a. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Current Beyonder is below the Living Tribunal however. pr beyonder was to kill death and all the abstracts (eternity,watcher,LT,galactus,mephisto,celestials) begged him but he killed death anyway. I didn't say he was TOAA himself *face palm* BEYONDER was TOAA before TOAA existed BEYONDER was him (TOAA) in his own. Round 1: CAS vs. 2 years ago. . Beyonder doesn't stand a chance, Beyonder is a little germ compared to the thought robot, and it would instantly get immune to beyonder reality warping. ultimatewarrior123. But tbh I think Lucifer is just a smarter fighter. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. Jul 30, 2018. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . After the retcon (1st one) that all changed, but not before it. Bonus: Nothing that I know of. Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. Followers. Round 1: CAS vs. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. FollowHere's the deal. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. HOTU Thanos. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. I’m goin wit Batman. This is a toss up. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. RULES:Morals off.